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Conversations With God : An Uncommon Dialogue (Book 2) by Neale Donald Walsch
Book Summary InformationAuthor: Neale Donald Walsch Edition: Hardcover Audio: English (Unknown); English (Original Language); English (Published) Published: 1997-05 ISBN: 1571740562 Number of pages: 263 Publisher: Hampton Roads Publishing Company
Book Reviews of Conversations With God : An Uncommon Dialogue (Book 2)Book Review: Inspiring and profound Summary: 5 Stars
I do not feel qualified to rate an inspired work. I come from a fundamentalist born again religion serving as deacon in a Southern Baptist Church for many years. However, I had already found that religion much too simplistic and narrow to satisfy my deeper spiritual longings. Only a few years ago I was arguing for the Bible as the infallible Word of God and preaching salvation or damnation. As I started doing my own thinking instead of letting tradition do it for me I realized that God is trying speak truth to us but we are so busy telling Him and others "the way it is" that we aren't listening to real truth. We are making the same mistake the Jews did when Jesus spoke in their Synagogues. We are buried so deep in doctrine we can't hear truth nor do we do our own thinking. If the Bible is God's Word and guide for the salvation of mankind, why is it only prevalent with a small part of His creation? If It is His Word why is it so ambiguous that so much division and disagreement exist in It's interpretation? If hell exists and the Bible points the way to salvation, why is there so much disagreement even among Bible scholars as to what constitutes salvation? Would God leave such a critical issue ambiguous? We say God gave us free will and we can either choose to serve Him or face the consequences of eternal damnation. What kind of free will or choice is that? That is exactly the choice a tyrant gives his constituents. King Nebuchadnezzar offered such a "free choice" to his kingdom, follow me or face the fiery furnace. We have actually made God into a tyrant. Can you imagine a loving parent issuing an ultimatum to their young son that he has until his eighteenth birthday to accept wisdom or face terrible consequences. At the appointed time the parents throw him into a snake pit. The parents say to the neighbors, "you know I really love that boy but this is the choice he made". On the one hand we say God's love is unconditional and then turn around and make! it very conditional upon all kinds of belief and ritual. Unconditional love does not condemn even if it's subject does misbehave or make a wrong choice. I submit that if we cannot trust God to love and protect us regardless of our behavior or choices then we cannot trust God at all. This is the reason the world lives in fear, including the "religious", because we don't really trust God. Why can't we just accept what we say we believe that God loves us unconditionally? The Bible obviously cannot be the infallible word of God or the whole story. God, in the Ten Commandments says, "thou shalt not kill", and then instructs the Israelites to kill and plunder enemy nations, "kill every man, woman and child", were the instructions dealing with the Amalikites. Moses was a murderer but it was OK since the victim was an Egyptian. I know this occurred before the ten commandments was given but God is unchanging and unchangeable. "Thou shalt not commit adultery", yet both Abraham and Issac tried to pass their wives off as sisters to make it easier on themselves, even though this meant having them sexually used by Abimelech, king of Gerar. At different times in the Old Testament God seems to have condoned the use of captive women for sexual sport by their Hebrew captors. Hardly in keeping with a loving God of all mankind. If a jealous husband suspected his wife of unfaithfulness he could force her to drink a poison concoction, if she survived she proved her innocence, if she died she proved her guilt. "Thou shalt not bear false witness", yet that is exactly what Moses did when he told Pharaoh they only wanted to hold a religious feast in the desert and would return in three days. "Thou shalt not steal", but it was OK for the Hebrew people to take whatever they wanted from the Egyptians as they made their escape from Egypt. The Bible seems to portray God rejoicing at the drowning of the Egyptians in the Red Sea. Was this not also the God of the Egyptians? The Bible says God "hardened the heart of Pharaoh so He could visit some more tragedy on the beleaguered Egyptians apparently out of revenge. Later God is praised for supporting the Jews for smashing the babies of the Edomites against rocks for what the Edomites had done to them (Psalms 137, 7-9). The Prophet Elisha caused bears to come and devour forty two children for making fun of his bald head. (2 Kings 2:23-25). Lot had to volunteer his virgin daughters as sac! rifice to appease the sex perverts apparently because the Angels were too weak to handle the situation for themselves. Over in the NT Jesus is said to have cursed a fig tree because it had not yet produced fruit even though it was not the season for figs. Paul treats women as second class humans saying they should keep quite in church and not participate in the service. There are many other examples of human inspiration rather than Divine in the Bible but space is limited. Does not this beg for greater discovery? Brothers and sisters remain open to God rather than tradition. Remove the restrictions and allow Him to speak through all channels. There can never be progress until the old gives way to the new. As long as we cling to the old we stalemate ourselves.. Martin Luther experience the same kind of ridicule for his rebellion against current beliefs. Gallileo was practically ostracized from society and eventually was forced to recount his "outlandish" idea that the earth revolved around the sun instead of the other way around which was the common belief in the fifteenth century. So were those who first proclaimed the earth to be round instead of flat. The earth had to be flat because the Bible said so, referring to the scripture in Revelation stating that the angels stood at the four corners of the earth. The religious people held to this belief until its falsity became undeniable. I recall a quote, although I have not been able to find the author, that stated, "Truth first expounded is ridiculed, eventually is scoffed at and finally is accepted". Another stated, "Truth always lags behind, limping along on the arm of time". History is replete with proof that our concept of truth is evolving. We know that God is unchanging and unchangeable, yet our concept of Him has been changing since the beginning of time. In Old Testament time God was thought of as being cruel, harsh, having anger or wrath, jealous and impetuous. We now know that God is love, yet love was hardly mentioned in the old Testament. Nor was it highly advocated during that time period. Yet the Old Testament accounts for the largest block of "scriptural" time and love is the very essence of God. It was only a few centuries ago that burning witches at the stake to rid society of evil was considered the Godly thing to do and was a fostered event at many churches in Europe as well as some here. I'm sure that those well meaning fundamentalists were certain t! hat truth had been fully revealed to them and that they considered themselves fully in tune with the Holy Spirit. It is now obvious to us that it hadn't and they weren't. I believe these books are one of many ways God is speaking to us. Finally, thank you Amazon for the great job you are doing in providing a huge inventory of books at reasonable prices and a forum for expressing opinions.
Summary of Conversations With God : An Uncommon Dialogue (Book 2)Resuming the dialogue where Book 1 left off, Conversations with God, Book 2 moves from personal issues to more global and political concerns. Included are questions about the nature of time and space and human sexuality, as well as geophysical and geopolitical considerations of worldwide implication. In Conversations with God: Book II, Neale Walsch and God resume their discussion and move on to larger topics than the personal issues addressed in their previous dialogue in Volume 1. For an "unedited transcript" of a conversation, Book II is remarkably well organized and articulate, as if Walsch anticipatd our "but what about" questions before we asked them. The peculiar pair discuss time, space, politics, and even kinky sex, but Conversations with God: Book II isn't here for just shock value. It is an honest look at some of the broad issues important to all of us on the planet, and a suggestion of how things might go if we are all willing to open our minds and have our own conversations with divinity. --Brian Patterson
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